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Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« en: Mié, 22 Septiembre 2010, 17:58:04, pm »
Cita de: haven;301054
Many thanks to ExPo member "Mickldo" for bringing us information about this Toyota camper with pop-up roof.

(https://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/soenke-outside-5.jpg)

(https://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/soenke-outside-2.jpg)

(https://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/soenke-outside-1.jpg)

The camper is owned by a fellow who posts using the name "Sönke" on the IH8MUD forum and elsewhere.  Here's a link to the thread on 'MUD.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/expedition-builds/245430-travelling-cruisers.html

The camper cabin was designed by Sönke.  The truck chassis, cab and cabin exterior were built by Marcus Haase, owner of the German firm Off-Road-Schmiede.  Sönke finished the interior of the cabin.

Here's a link to the builder's web page for this project
https://www.offroad-schmiede.com/kabine_hydraulisch.html

The photos above and in following posts are from Sönke and from the offroad-schmiede.com web pages.

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The Land Cruiser chassis used in this project is a custom combination of a 1979 HJ47 pickup cab and front clip, mated to running gear from a 1993 HDJ 80 diesel. 

Here's a photo of the chassis under construction at the Off-Road-Schmiede workshop.  Note how much width was added to the fenders

(https://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/soenke-construction-1.jpg)

A manual transmission is mated to the 1HD-T (12V) diesel engine.  An HDJ 100 alternator and starter were added.  The radiator is designed for for an HZJ5.  The front axle is strengthened, and 4.88 diffs with OME lockers were added front and rear.

Wheels chosen for this project are 325/80R16 Cooper SST tires, mounted on Alcoa 8 inch forged rims.  The tires are 36.5 inches (926 mm) tall, with a width of 12.75 in (325 mm).

The cab was lengthened 6 inches to provide more leg room.  In finished form, the cab looks quite comfortable.

(https://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/soenke-cab-1.jpg)

Vehicle weight, including the camper cabin and supplies, is about 7500 lbs.


The interior of the camper cabin is finished in plywood.  The double bed fits sideways across the cabin next to the truck cab.  An emergency exit into the cab is available

(https://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/soenke-cabin-1.jpg)

The interior has a table on a pivoting mount.  The table can be lowered to extend the size of the bed.  The large cabinet at the rear has space to hang wet clothing.  Hot air from an Eberspächer heater can be routed into the closet.  A Webasto water heater warms the truck cab, and can be used to warm up the engine coolant.

(https://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/soenke-cabin-2.jpg)

On the driver's side, the cabinetry conceals an Engel refrigerator

(https://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z241/expeditioncampers/soenke-cabin-3.jpg)

The small cook top is an Origo alcohol stove.  A Katydin water filter helps sanitize the onboard water supply.  An electric pump pulls water into the system.  An outside shower is available, too.

There are lots more interior photos and text here

https://forum.ih8mud.com/3855581-post57.html


Chip Haven


First we wanted to stretch the frame and make a longer cabine with an upright back.
While making the first set up we noticed, that we might go without touching the frame...
here finding the design, this was no good:frown:
(https://up.picr.de/1510415.jpg)
 
the metall work, stretching the J4 body and the fenders, the build up of the cabine, welding the tanks and most of the work getting 40 and 80 together was done by Markus ( www.offroad-schmiede.com  )...we did most of the planing and the design (sometimes contrary to Markus´concepts, sometimes fabrication ways forced us to build different to our plans) and we build the interior / furniture
(https://up.picr.de/1510416.jpg)
(https://up.picr.de/1510442.jpg)
 
transporting the cabine to get started with the inside
(https://up.picr.de/1510417.jpg)
we could use a well equipted carpenders garage in the neighborhood
(https://up.picr.de/1510418.jpg)


some from the build up time:
 
placing the J4 body on the 80 frame. It´s sitting further toward the front then original when the 1HD-T is keept in place. Still very little space is left when  the visko-clutch fan is used. The Body has to be mounted higher to provide space for the tires underneath the fender.
(https://up.picr.de/1550187.jpg)
 
the frame goes in curves, wich helped to make it not to easy for Marcus  to manufacture the cabin-mounts
(https://up.picr.de/1550188.jpg)
 
The vintage A/C radiator fits perfectly in front of the radiator from a HZJ75. Adapted metal fenders and aluminium storage front bumper. You can see the 13cm body lift
(https://up.picr.de/1550189.jpg)
 
f/g sandwichplates glued to the aluminium frame of the cabine
(https://up.picr.de/1550190.jpg)
 
the top, easy to lift with two persons
and the extended J45 roof
(https://up.picr.de/1550191.jpg)
 
(https://up.picr.de/1550192.jpg)
 
getting it together
(https://up.picr.de/1550193.jpg)
just to take it apart again and again.... untill everything fits quite well.
Time for some paint
(https://up.picr.de/1550194.jpg)
 
(https://up.picr.de/1550195.jpg)
 
stabilizers for the fenders
(https://up.picr.de/1550196.jpg)


without the cabin
 
(https://up.picr.de/1556295.jpg)
 
The window is bigger then stock, a Reimo window to slide open. In the cabins front wall is a matching window, allowing emegerncy exit to the cab..
I liked the look, would be nice as a flat bed...

(https://up.picr.de/1557701.jpg)


a few pictures from the inside. We wanted a clear, modern look. Our last build was made out of aluminium inside and has been powdered afterwards, this time we prefered marine plywood, on the top and the bottom plastered with Formica (Resopal)

with the top down sleeping is still possible if necessary
(https://up.picr.de/1509972.jpg)

the bed level is only fastend at the sides, so a huge storageroom results (for spare tire or foldable kayak) and the 4 underfloor storagerooms in the front can be reached. Under the bed are racks to accept Rako-Boxes
(https://up.picr.de/1509973.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1509976.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1509977.jpg)

the second part of the bed is made up of the table
(https://up.picr.de/1509974.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1509975.jpg)

drivers side with an open shelf for camping table and seats, Origo stove for inside use, kitchen boxes to take outside (simple drawersystem with Rako-Boxes and aluminium profile). Engelbox in HD drawer.
(https://up.picr.de/1509986.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1509987.jpg)

to the right is a small sink, a wardrobe wich can be heated to dry cloth, Katadyn waterfilter and outside shower can be plugged in the watersystem.
bottom level with space for a big Rako-Box fpr the outside cooking stuff, shoes etc. Underfloor storageroom with Engelspächer heater.
(https://up.picr.de/1509988.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1509989.jpg)


Hydraulikpump and the 12V motor
(https://up.picr.de/1509990.jpg)


Hey Christo,

The engine and axel mounts are stock 80. I wanted to leave the technic as stock as possible due to traveling.
That is the reason for the cab sitting so far up front regarding the fender and front tire position. It is good to see in this picture:
(https://up.picr.de/1575513.jpg)

Still radiators and visko-clutch dont gain plenty of space...
(https://up.picr.de/1592642.jpg)


The design would have been a lot better with the cab mounted further back, but then we would have needed custom mounts and driveshafts, e-fan and the frame would have had to be stretched to support the cabin. We had been thinking of this, but I liked the idea of stock technic better and it would have eaten up even more time and money...

greetings Sönke


from the outside,

(https://up.picr.de/1348651.jpg)

advantage not to have a high cabin
(https://up.picr.de/1521799.jpg)

and advantage having a high cabin to stand upright
(https://up.picr.de/1579299.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1348652.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1579301.jpg)


some more close ups

the bumper; covering the body lift, winchmount and storageroom...
(https://up.picr.de/1579364.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1579365.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1579366.jpg)


underground:
frontaxel tube is reinforced but still high pinion diff
(https://up.picr.de/1579374.jpg)

middle tank
(https://up.picr.de/1579376.jpg)

skidplate and compressed air reservoir
(https://up.picr.de/1579377.jpg)

rear tank
(https://up.picr.de/1579378.jpg)

battery and tank switches (box still needs tovbe painted and the watertanks underneath the seats covered..)
(https://up.picr.de/1579386.jpg)


greetings Sönke


Thanks,
scaned two more:  up and down :jumping:

(https://up.picr.de/1604517.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1604519.jpg)

I will have some more work done inside the cab soon...


hey again,

If you want to leave the mounts in place (wich means the drive train stock) and the radiator in front, the cab has to move foward in relation of the original J4 front axle position. The cab is still much further back as the 80 body as you see looking at the bumper...In order to fit the tires under the front fender they have to move up. The body lift isn´t a problem, you have to rebuilt all lines and the stearing anyway...

here you can see the position of the front in relation to the J8 frame. Compared to the J4 axle position its is a few centimeters, we didn´t measure. All we wanted was the tires not to rub. 35" will work with chains, 37" don´t touch...

and my feet have nothing to do with it...for them we stretched the body ...

the rims are 8"R16 ET 0 ,  no spacing at all. I know someone how put on nissan rims to be less wide with his J7/J8 Hybrid but the turning circle will suffer.

(https://up.picr.de/1822950.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1823015.jpg)


sorry for the late answer :smilies27

We use a Katadyn-dual-filter wich can be put it in the water line if needed (we use the Gardena connectors and pressure air connectors). Water can be drawn from either tank under the seats in the cab or from outside ( when dirty, it will have to pass the filter ) and be pumped to the tap at the sink or to a Gardena-Nozzle.
https://www.gardena.com/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10052&storeId=10052&productId=13077&langId=10&parent_category_rn=12555
This works as a shower or to refill the tanks with filtered water, so we never have to take water of unkown quality in the tanks.

In the engine bay a Webasto water heater is installed wich works by timer, so in winter the engine will be warmed up and the cab cosy befor starting.

The cabin is heated by an Eberspächer air heater with a possible air outlet in the wardrobe if we have to dry cloth.

Here the sink (with an Ortlieb sink lying inside), far right on the wardrobe you can see a metal pipe for all the wiring going up to the top. In the wardrobe an aluminum cover prevents the cloth from beeing penetrated by the pipe when the top (and so the pipe) is descending. Air outlet for the cabin at the  bottom right. The Eberspächer is installed in an underfloor box, you can just see the top of the heater
(https://up.picr.de/1972047.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1972048.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1972045.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/1972049.jpg)

Sorry, it´s still not finished and the wireing cleaned up...


thanks :D,

I´ve been asking for pics showing a NATO tow hook / pintle mounted at the crossmember...and have been collecting all kinds of official data for quite some time. Now I got the raod approval from the german TÜV for our hitch system. It works with the VarioBlock, wich allows to change between a DixonBate pintle, a tow ball or a cover to allow the door to swing open...
 
pintle
(https://up.picr.de/1898259.jpg)
tow ball
(https://up.picr.de/1898260.jpg)
cover to protect the mechanism
(https://up.picr.de/1898261.jpg)
 
it´s just a piece of paper, though hard to get.
And so driving home the small roads was very pleasing :victory:
(https://up.picr.de/1898262.jpg)
(https://up.picr.de/1898263.jpg)



thanks..

    :victory:


got the Sankey trailer on the road meanwhile ... https://nakatanenga-tours.de is repairing and selling Sankey and other Land Rover stuff

 
the trailer will be used for working around the house rather then travelling or serious off-road driving. To do so, we´ll have to lengthen the draw bar first
 
but driving autobahn  I don´t even notice the little thing behind :D
 



(https://up.picr.de/2171673.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/2171674.jpg)

..


a new kind of 80 build dedicated to travelling has just been finished by the www.Offroad-Schmiede.com
it´s lighter to go without a hydraulic system and less complicated without the J4 cab...

(https://up.picr.de/2300290.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/2300291.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/2300346.jpg)

(https://up.picr.de/2300347.jpg)


its going foward in small steps (but no changes to be shown on photos)
 
 
we brought the car to a specialist MALTEC - Leichtbautechnologie für Expeditions- und Rallyefahrzeuge to reduce the wiring to the absolutely essential,
can´t wait to get rid of this, wich is somehow just stuffed away in the moment:
(https://up.picr.de/3087513.jpg)
(https://up.picr.de/3087514.jpg)

(there are nice J7 and J8 camper conversions on the maltec side to see..)
 

and a few more pics from the car on the last trip

(https://up.picr.de/3087529.jpg)
I like this few..
 
(https://up.picr.de/3087530.jpg)
plenty of nice places to camp
 
(https://up.picr.de/3087531.jpg)
everything getting ... grey when the gravelroad is wet
 
(https://up.picr.de/3087532.jpg)
bedtime..
 
:cheers:


thanks guys.

I didn´t find to much time to keep on improving details, so there is still no reading light inside the cabin, we just use a small flashlight  :p

We had to postpone our this year summer trip to Iceland to October...so I tried to fit military chains on the 37" and they just fit perfectly. All I need is spacers to maintain the full clearance offroad...

(https://up.picr.de/5107844.jpg)

hope I can make some nice pics in snow, storm and rain...



S, R y GS



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Re: Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« Respuesta #1 en: Mié, 22 Septiembre 2010, 19:00:37, pm »
  Andaban por ahí estas fotos, pero no dejan de sorprenderme y verlas otra vez..y otra......y otra....y otra..............
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Re: Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« Respuesta #2 en: Mié, 22 Septiembre 2010, 19:54:12, pm »
es que es para recrearse, que bicho mas bien parido  :o :o
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Re: Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« Respuesta #3 en: Jue, 23 Septiembre 2010, 20:27:55, pm »
Que pasada!!!!
Yo no lo habia visto, y no se si queria verlo.............
ahhh, eso si que es una preparacion a fondo :o



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Re: Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« Respuesta #4 en: Mar, 28 Septiembre 2010, 19:15:26, pm »
Que pasada. Buf.
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Re: Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« Respuesta #5 en: Mar, 28 Septiembre 2010, 20:04:51, pm »
Skaven, yo creo que en esa cama tú no cabrias. Como mucho le hecho 180 cm raspados. Tened en cuenta que la parte baja de la celula es mas estrecha, y luego el grosor de las paredes (al menos 3 cm a cada lado)



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Re: Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« Respuesta #6 en: Mar, 28 Septiembre 2010, 20:49:35, pm »
me estan temblando las herramientas y las neuronas.............



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Re: Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« Respuesta #7 en: Mié, 29 Septiembre 2010, 11:54:07, am »
Skaven, yo creo que en esa cama tú no cabrias. Como mucho le hecho 180 cm raspados. Tened en cuenta que la parte baja de la celula es mas estrecha, y luego el grosor de las paredes (al menos 3 cm a cada lado)

Ya bueno, pero no deja de ser una pasada :D

El día que yo tenga un camper .. tendrá que ser un trailer o algo así :D
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Re: Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« Respuesta #8 en: Mié, 29 Septiembre 2010, 12:21:20, pm »
vaya pedazo de pasada :o :o :o


Hasta el infinito y más payá...



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Re: Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« Respuesta #9 en: Mié, 29 Septiembre 2010, 15:14:38, pm »
Hola, esos coches en canarias como todo el mundo sabe, llevan muchisiomos años, muchos, conozco a alguno que los ha tenido y son de chapa mas malos que pifio, se compran dados de baja para sacar repuestos de chapa ya que estos aunque los restaures, en poco tiempo , hablo de un año, se auto destruyen, se pudren vilmente, eso si, en el garaje no, lo que pasa que en canarias puedes torturar al dueño de uno y no suelta prenda al respecto, diceje sabra de lo que hablo, bueno, el tiene un toyota  >:D, no se si sera de confianza su opinion  ;D, igual es que el arenado no es muy comun por estos lares y se restaura sobre chapa ya tocada , de los frenos, mejor no hablo y el consumo es otra historia, tienes que emborrachar al dueño para que te diga sobre 16 litros, cuando estan sobrios no pasa de 10. ;D
Eso si, chulos un rato.

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Re: Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« Respuesta #10 en: Mié, 29 Septiembre 2010, 15:52:54, pm »
 Hombre don Moixex, por aluciones,  ;)  De ese modelo tuvimos 2, del corto cerrado y fueron dos, porque mi hermano planto un arbol dentro del primero y era economicante irreparable  ;) 
De gasto de gasoil pues no me acuerdo, de la chapa si son malos, creo que recuperaban las latas de sardinas para estos toyotas... ;D pero lo que si puedo decir, que no los rompias (mecanicamente) ni queriendo, recuerdo que hasta si los dejabas sin aceite, se paraban y no los podias arrancar. Muy buenas bestias y muy buenos recuerdos.
  Y como prueba del delito, no recuerdo si este era el primero o el seguno, esta foto sacada con un polaroid y con unos cuantos años encima.....haciendo las paridas de la edad....



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Re: Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« Respuesta #11 en: Mié, 29 Septiembre 2010, 19:30:25, pm »
Hombre don Moixex, por aluciones,  ;)  De ese modelo tuvimos 2, del corto cerrado y fueron dos, porque mi hermano planto un arbol dentro del primero y era economicante irreparable  ;) 
De gasto de gasoil pues no me acuerdo, de la chapa si son malos, creo que recuperaban las latas de sardinas para estos toyotas... ;D pero lo que si puedo decir, que no los rompias (mecanicamente) ni queriendo, recuerdo que hasta si los dejabas sin aceite, se paraban y no los podias arrancar. Muy buenas bestias y muy buenos recuerdos.
  Y como prueba del delito, no recuerdo si este era el primero o el seguno, esta foto sacada con un polaroid y con unos cuantos años encima.....haciendo las paridas de la edad....



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Hola, un compi mio del curro tiene uno heredado y creo hace el amor con el, como lo quiere, tienes mas razon que un santo,de motor los hay con mas de 30 años sin reparar.
A ver esa quedada, voltioquemado creo murio por el camino,no da señales de vida.

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Re: Land Cruiser Camper (Transformación)
« Respuesta #12 en: Jue, 30 Septiembre 2010, 00:06:04, am »
Una pregunta si no he entendido mal han cojido un chasis de un hdj80, con una cabina de un 40 pickup?