Comparativa Trafic:Adriatic Threeway Space, Weinsberg X-Cursion y Bavaria Scout

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Three Renault Trafic with different development   

The basis is the Trafic of Renault. Since the market launch just four years ago the elegantly designed multifunctional vehicle is considered(applies) as an adequate and first of all reasonable alternative to the top dogs of the class: to VW T5 and Mercedes Viano.


The candidates are three dormobiles on the basis of the Frenchman, the newest what the compact class the leisure mobile at present has to offer:

    * Adriatic Threeway Space for 32.990.-Euros.

    * Weinsberg X-Cursion at a price of 34.120.-Euros.

    * The Bavaria camp Scout for 39.830.-Euros - most expensive in the comparison.



All three are diesel vehicles with 1.9 liters of piston displacement, 100 PS, 6-speed transmission and a maximum speed of approximately 155 km/h.

seats in front

The sketch is identical with all and has proved itself with dormobiles: in front the swivelling single seats which can be integrated into the living-room. Behind it long kitchen units with 2-flaming cooker and Wash up.



bed below

The back bench can be folded out without effort to the double bed. Behind the tailboard cupboards and traffic jam space for baggage. Toilet(dress) or shower are not usual for compact dormobiles. The fact that is called, they are not a self-sufficient journey mobile.


ausstellabres roof    

For it the roof can be turned up with all. The little high room offers near the Stehhöhe also a night's lodging for two, however, is not isolated because of the tent material walls and, therefore, unsuitable for the winter application.


To investigate to strong and weakness of the candidates we check, for example:

    * How it stands around piece of furniture masses and the place offer in the interior.

    * How around material quality and manufacturing goodness.

    * How around vehicle weight and additional charge.

    * How around driving comfort and security at the steering wheel.

bed in model Adriatic

To cash value differences become, for example, with the roof structure visible. To save weight(importance) are often leisure penalty - like with Adriatic - with a primitively thin and a little comfortable mattress fitted out.



bed in model Weinsberg

Good: Weinsberg. He(it) offers Optional as more only instead of the piece of plywood a grille.


bed in model Bavaria

Badly: the Bavaria. The Liegefläche does not remain at the top because the telescope absorber is too weak.



kitchen in model Bavaria

For it the bus convinces with the kitchen block. As a unity the 2-flaming cooker and the Edelstahlspüle is processed very beautifully. Under it a drawer is for cutlery and what is also quite important, an extract for tableware. The close requires aboard compromises. If the Liegefläche has departed, refrigerator and traffic jam fields are obstructed frequently.



Therefore, for Weinsberg there is as an extra a cold box with top loader. Practically!





Of Adriatic is equipped in the rear with venetian blind cupboards.

gas tank with the model Bavaria

With most expensive in the test of Bavaria such ideas are absent(lacking). For it he(it) has other strong: the gas tank possibly, is only with him outwardly to befüllen. This is a security advantage. And: the table usually integrated into the kitchen units is stowed away with the Bavaria separately in the rear and, therefore, can be used also outside. That saves additional bulky luggage.



slalom

With the driving attempts points all three mobile weakness. Although series ESP is, the dormobiles of the often praised PASSENGER CARS to similar roadability are far away. The vehicles build up with the Handlingtest because of their(her) high proper weight and construction dangerously. That is: in critical situations they are controllable only from practiced drivers.





However, more importantly for the buying decision the utility value is for the leisure. There is not a clear winner or loser, because all three have their(her) strong, all three have their(her) weakness. Best the piece of furniture building from the Bavaria would be a camp, the bed in the roof of Weinsberg and the robustness of Adriatic.




Result:


Who searches the optimal leisure companion, should place to the needs according to priorities. And, besides, is considered(applies): the most expensive offer is certainly not always the best one!

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[ooznak]

y otra:

Journey mobile
If two do the same one, it is not the same
From Monika Schramm

08th May, 2005 with the transporters which can be developed for the leisure Renault Trafic spreads itself at present incredibly. The unusually designed chest which waves with positive base price has already animated a whole row of Ausbauern, and they shunt a good piece below the price spheres in which VW California or Mercedes Benz Marco Polo is in the meantime entschwebt.

As examples of developed Trafics we have more exactly had a look at Adriatic 3Way Space and Weinsberg X-Cursion: practical everyday companions suitable for underground parking with short trip qualities. Their(her) prices are almost identical: 34290 (Adriatic) and 34.390 Euros (Weinsberg), calculates(charges) with 2.5-liter turbo diesel and folding roof. In the end price the difference was clearer. Our 3Way was driven, for example, by the 1.9-liter TD what leads to a saving of 1.300 Euros, and he(it) brings as a Space the roof bed in series which costs 690 Euros in Weinsberg, in addition. For this different addition packages are also laced to particularly positive prices. There help only careful comparisons.

Kitchen, bank(bench) and place to sleep
Weinsberg X-Cursion

Both test persons have on the left side(page) narrow kitchen units, in connection in it cupboard space as well as an adjustable bank(bench) from which a bed can become. They use the renaulteigene patent that with the reconstruction the backs of seat and back with a soft edition come upwards, so that one does not sleep on konturierten, to hard seat upholsterings. In the bank(bench) the preliminary decision can already fall: Weinsberg two offers there namely as a single offerer far and widely three places(squares), completely with three-point belt and headrest to Adriatic.

Pantry spreads 1.15 meters in Adriatic a mat-light blue surface(environment) has like the cupboards. Between 2-flaming cooker on the right and Washes up (both from high-grade steel) is still a field(compartment) in order to turn up in which a flat basket fits. Under it is under a cover a 5-kilo gas bottle round which one can stow away things which one does not need too frequently. Of right(law) sits under a drawer a compressor refrigerator (40 liters) to which one does not approach any more if the bed is built. Because under the rinses the fresh water tank has his(its) place(square) and lost the kitchen in favour of the bank(bench) in depth, their(her) traffic jam volume is scarce. In the rear two roll-front cabinets take(accept) clothes or supplies. Besides, the third place(square) costs the otherwise usual drawer under the bank(bench) because for the belt attachment all kinds of additional steel stand had to be installed there. In between one can stow away, of course, loose stuff. Is a little bit impractical that the table has his(its) place(square) on the way in the bed edition in the rear, from where one must create him difficultly forwards.

This problem is solved in Weinsberg very much originally and elegantly: the door of the untercupboard becomes the table, while one supports them(her,it) hochschwenkt and with three handles to the Herausklappen of the foot on the ground(bottom). Up to now on this idea nobody has still come. In his(its) rail at the top in the kitchen block the table can be lightly shifted, too lightly(easily), there is no locking because he(it) already moves on the smallest pressure. In the 1.42 meter wide kitchen (2-flaming cooker and Washes up) is more place(square) than in Adriatic, on the left space(area) is reproached for (760 Euros at cost) cold box which opens upwards and is always accessible. For it the 70 centimeter wide "wardrobe" is only a field(compartment), he(it) must take(accept) in his(its) basement still the fresh water tank. But in a roof field crosswise in the rear as well as in the drawer of the bank(bench) is still traffic jam space. The pieces of furniture with their(her) bright wood with aluminium applications look more elegant than in Adriatic, the upholsteries are same.

Comfortably warmly with the diesel recirculating heating

The gas supply (2.8-kilo bottle) takes place from a traffic jam field in the rear from. This reaches(is enough) to the cooking, because is heated, if for 1.265 Euros ordered, with a diesel recirculating heating which costs 719 Euros in Adriatic (from another offerer). Both vehicles are equipped plentifully with lamps, however, there are not enough files for the backbenchers, and a little place for a dustbin would be laterally on the right in the kitchen block. Weinsberg must still extend clamp for the curtains. Before the back window makes itself in curves gladly independent and darkens at an inopportune moment. To the isolation of the front disc a paded material is fastened by means of suction buttons to the glass. With Adriatic interferes in the driver's cab that one must grope for the belt always in the curtain placed there, certainly, the material itself is thin, but close(thick) and is coated outwardly.

Bed in the attic

To set up the roof, one solves in the 3Way on the left and on the right two belts and braces himself substantially against the lid, since the Hebehilfe reaches and the upper floor unfolded. If one climbs about the driver's cab seats upwards, one can do it to himself on a bed of nevertheless 1.36 times 1.90 meters on a very thin, but soft special foam mattress pleasant. For air and light is cared in the form of windows in the roof material, part with, part without mosquito protection. By the constraint ventilation it moves substantially, one positions himself with cool weather better not in the wind. By the fastening(closing) of the badger one must pay attention to the fact that the material does not become in front eingequetscht, then one contrives both belts again and lashes them(her,it) firmly, finishedly.

One unlocks both lateral locks in the X Cursion roof about a central lever and braces himself against it as had. At the top there waits a thin mattress on a grille, two windows let in air, one only lights. The rust is dressed up downwards with a thin plastic bowl in which in front a plate(record) is pushed like with a sunroof to the back if one wants to climb in the roof. This is a fine idea in the principle because one does not look in the piled material roof. But these both plastic parts are a source of permanent, disastrous rattle and Scheppergeräusche, so that one can only advise potential customer to wait, since Weinsberg a better solution has occured(has fallen in). It has spoiled for us driving in the X-Cursion.

The second deficit for the roof: while pulling down the material folds itself with the help of sewn hangers, certainly, substantially inwards (in front one must draw him händisch), but then the locks do not click shut, even if one allows to fall down the whole a little. How with a bonnet the first "catch hook" touched, certainly, but finally we could only bolt the roof, while we have with full force outwardly draufgedrückt, since it engaged audible.

The driving comfort in the Trafic is rather modest, just transporter-typical. Is unsatisfactory the ventilation blower which is in the first step almost uneffectively and in second already to according to. The bigger diesel goes substantially, with 1.9 one is constant in the switching in the standard 6 way transmission to hold(regard) him on speed.

Who needs five places(squares), 3Way Space with his(its) good price-performance ratio does not go past Adriatic, he(it) offers durable technology, but few traffic jam fields. For Weinsberg speak the more elegant piece of furniture building and the bigger cupboard space. But only when he(it) has a perfectly concluding(closing) roof free of rattle.

(son un poco tocho de leer, pero creo que sirven para ver en que cosas fijarse cuando estás comparando para comprar... )

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[[terrible]]

  Muy buenos los reportajes... me he quedado  viendo la trafic a dos ruedas en la prueba del slalom...

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[ooznak]

ya te digo, pena que no haya foto mas grande

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[[terrible]]

si, que pena...  ¿habra volcado?    estaria bien saber mas sobre esas pruebas, mas que nada para conocer los limites de la furgo.
Porque yo no voy a probar a ponerla a dos ruedas haciendo slalom entre conos...

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[ooznak]

hombre, según deduzco yo de lo que pone es que en situaciones límites no son muy controlables... a menos que seas un conductor con bastante experiencia.

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[CARAKOL]

Pa mi que cuando dice "practiced drivers" quiere decir un artista de cuidao al volante.
Un saludo.
P.D Y que la furgona no sea tuya.

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[[terrible]]

Si,si lo de las situacones limite es como todo... depende del coche y de quien lo conduzca y que yo no tengo la furgo para hacer el macarra... Sin mas es por curiosidad...
El reportaje está muy bien, se ve que realmente las han probado.
Lo que pasa es lo de siempre, ¿cual de estas se puede comprar aqui? ¿la Adriá? ¿igual? haciendote un favor... (que no se, por eso lo pregunto) 

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[CARAKOL]

Bavaria creo que tb vende en Spain

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[tra´fi:k]

Lo que pasa es lo de siempre, ¿cual de estas se puede comprar aqui? ¿la Adriá? ¿igual? haciendote un favor... (que no se, por eso lo pregunto) 

Te lo confirmo: la Adria sí la venden en España. En algún post, creo que en el de compra organizada de california o marco polo, ooznak publicó los precios (rondan los 35000 euros)

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